A lot of people find my blog by way of the guest post I wrote on Liz Carlson’s blog Young Adventuress. In that guest post, I gave an overview of the program that I went through in order to teach English in Spain, an organization known as UCETAM. I thought I wrote a decent and fairly detailed post of how the program works and covered all the basics. However, as it turns out it seems a lot of you future auxiliar applicants have more questions about UCETAM if the several e-mails I receive every week are any indication. I realize there is not a lot of information about UCETAM online and I have sort of become the unofficial UCETAM go to person in the teaching English in Spain blogosphere. I’ve been happy to field your questions and answer to the best of my knowledge, but I’ve noticed a lot of you are asking the same questions. I’ve decided to compile a list of some of the most Frequently Asked Questions about UCETAM that I get. In no particular order, here we go:
1. How competitive is the program?
This is without a doubt one of the most common questions I receive. And unfortunately, I don’t have a straight answer. If I were to hazard a logical guess, I would say UCETAM is more competitive than the Ministerio de Educacion’s program (aka North American Language and Culture Assistants) simply because there are less positions available. The Ministerio has around 2000+ positions to fill. According to my entirely unscientific research approach online, it seems most people who apply to the Ministerio receive a placement. I’ve never heard someone who applied to the Ministerio’s program say, “I didn’t receive a placement this year.” (Which doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, but I don’t think it is common.) Unlike the Ministerio, UCETAM only places its auxiliares in Madrid and not all over Spain. I have no idea how many auxiliares are employed by UCETAM (though I’ve been told the number grows every year as more and more schools sign up to take on auxiliares), but I am reasonably sure it is significantly less than 2000. Maybe a couple hundred? Maybe a little over a hundred? Your guess is as good as mine.
At any rate, I know for a fact it is definitely more competitive than the Ministry. However, I do not know how many people decide to apply each year. I do not how many people decide to stay a second year (you can work for UCETAM for a maximum of two years), so I can’t tell you how many positions are available on a yearly basis. In my personal experience, it seems I was pretty much guaranteed a spot because I was an NYU graduate. NYU is a partner institution of UCETAM (which isn’t exactly a secret, you can clearly see the NYU logo at the bottom of the website) and it seems most people who either went to grad school or undergrad at NYU get accepted right off the bat. This may give us NYU people (and other applicants from partner institutions) an unfair advantage, but honestly I had no idea NYU in Madrid was even involved in this kind of program when I picked the school to do my MA. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
2. Do I need to know how to speak Spanish?
And the answer is, yes, you do. Some people who e-mail me about UCETAM have taught or are currently teaching English in other countries and it seems they were able to “get by” speaking English. I can totally understand if you were teaching abroad in a country which does not use the Latin alphabet, such as somewhere in Asia or Russia (the Cyrillic alphabet scares me to death!) for example. If you did go out of your way to learn the local non-Latin alphabet using language, you deserve to be immortalized somewhere in a Language Learner Hall of Fame or something. Respect.
Fortunately, Spanish uses the Latin alphabet so in my opinion, it is not as intimidating to learn if you speak a language that already uses the Latin alphabet (such as English). Definitely invest in some Spanish language classes before you leave or enroll in some Spanish classes once you arrive in Spain if you have never learned Spanish before (and if you are doing UCETAM in Madrid, you are in luck because there are plenty of language academies available). Don’t expect Spanish people to be able to speak English. You expect people to learn English in the USA, right? Well, guess what? The same applies to you in Spain. In my experience, very few native Spaniards knew much English, apart from the English-speaking expats and language assistants already living in Madrid. Spain has a reputation for having the lowest level of English speakers in Europe. I know some European countries are known to have a high percentage of English speakers such as the Scandinavian countries, Germany etc. Spain is definitely not one of them. And this actually makes your job as an English teacher easier because it keeps you in business! But it does mean you will have to do your part and learn some Spanish. You don’t want to feel isolated during your year in Spain due to the language barrier.
3. Where is the link on the website that says where to apply? It’s all in Spanish, I can’t find it. Tell me where to go.
Despite adding a direct link to the website in my guest post on Liz’s blog, a lot of you can’t seem to find the “auxiliares section” of the website. I’ll admit, the first time I searched for it, it took me awhile to find what I was looking for because it is not exactly user friendly. First of all, to switch the website to English, it’s very simple. There are three flags to the left of the home page–Spain, USA, and the UK. By clicking the USA or UK flag, the website will switch to English.
You then click on “Click here to enter” on BPU Bilingual Program. From this page, look at the top of the page. You should see the links BPU, Agreements, Activities, and Auxiliaries written in blue. I know it seems weird, but you have to click on Auxiliaries and this will take you to the page that tells you how to apply to the program. But just in case all of this is too confusing, here is the direct link to the Auxiliar program: http://www.ucetampbu.es/index.php/programa-de-auxiliares/auxiliares
4. What is the program director/coordinator’s e-mail?
Previously, I had given out the program director’s e-mail because the information on the website was outdated. But it seems they updated the info on the website so I will no longer be giving that out. If you still can’t figure out how to contact anybody from the program, there is a contact info section on the website here. If the website’s info becomes outdated again, then I may again provide contact info. For the time being though, it is accurate.
5. Can I send in my application early? What if I’m not around and traveling if/when UCETAM decides to accept me and I am unavailable to respond?
I have no idea if you can send it in early but it can’t hurt to contact UCETAM and ask. And if you happen to be traveling during the period that UCETAM will be sending out acceptances/rejections, my advice is to make sure to check your e-mail regularly. If you really want it that badly, you should make yourself available. Consider it like any job interview. You wouldn’t tell an interviewer that you are going to be unavailable for the next 6 weeks because you are backpacking throughout Europe or whatever it is you have planned. It is unprofessional and makes it seem like you don’t really care that much. They can easily contact another candidate and replace you. It’s fine if you are heading out of town for awhile, but make sure to check your voice mail/e-mail, even if coverage is spotty. Most places are equipped with Wifi so it shouldn’t be too difficult to shoot an e-mail saying “I accept/decline the position.” And if you really are going to be too busy traveling, maybe consider applying the next year.
6. Does UCETAM have an age limit?
(Mark Twain may not have said this, but it sounded appropriate to me.)
I am fairly certain UCETAM does not have an age limit. The majority of UCETAM language assistants are typically in their twenties, recently graduated from undergrad, and trying to figure out what the next step in their lives are. Teaching English abroad seems like a really unique adventure and puts off the “real job search” for a few years. However, that doesn’t mean people who are not in their twenties shouldn’t apply. Everybody can use a career break. Everybody is entitled to their own unique adventure. Teaching English abroad should not have an age limit. Some programs do have an age limit (I know TAPIF in France does) but UCETAM doesn’t discriminate based on your age. Don’t let your age be a hindrance. And most of you have more life experience (and teaching experience), so in my opinion you will get more out of the program than us youngins who don’t really know what we are doing. (Please let me know if you feel you were not chosen for UCETAM because of your age and if I am mistaken. These are things I want to know).
7. Does UCETAM prefer hiring people who are already in Spain and who already have a NIE? Do they give preference to EU residents?
I’m not sure how this rumor got started but several people have asked me this, so maybe there is some truth to it. If any current or previous UCETAM participants have any information that may shed light on this, feel free to share. All of the people who applied to the program from NYU the year I applied got accepted. We were already living in Spain and we already had NIEs (or in my case a French passport). However, I also met people who were in the States when they applied and they also got accepted. I really don’t know what goes into the UCETAM admission process. If UCETAM does prefer hiring people who are already in Spain, it may make their job easier. But I really hope it isn’t true because they are missing out on hiring some awesome people who are not already in Spain.
However, I can say with all certainty UCETAM does not give preference to EU residents. The majority of program participants were Americans. I was one of the lucky few that did not have to go through the visa/NIE process because I inherited French citizenship thanks to my dad.
8. How did you decide on UCETAM versus other teaching English in Spain programs?
I’ve already touched upon this in some of the previous questions. Towards the end of MA program at NYU in Madrid, UCETAM held an info session about the program at the NYU campus. I attended, thought it sounded like a great way to stay in Spain a second year, so I applied and then got accepted. I tried applying to the Ministry program, but once I heard back from UCETAM that I was accepted, I abandoned the Ministry application. I also didn’t really want to live anywhere else in Spain and with UCETAM, I was guaranteed to stay a second year in Madrid.
9. Does UCETAM offer language/teaching instruction?
Unlike BEDA which has mandatory classes auxiliares must attend on certain weekends, UCETAM does not offer any language or teacher training. There is a one week “orientation” before classes start at the beginning of the school year and a general info session. But that’s it. Depending on the school you are placed in, you may receive instruction on what topics you should cover in class and what materials you should use or you may be given total freedom to do whatever you want in the classroom. If you are nervous about walking into the classroom with no training whatsoever, you can always enroll in a TEFL/TESOL course before starting the program. TEFL classes are offered worldwide and online and there is a variety of options you can choose from. I can’t recommend any specific TEFL course because I never actually did one so I suggest you do some research before applying.
10. Can you tell me about other teaching English in Spain programs like the Ministry, BEDA, CIEE, Fulbright…?
I’m a huge proponent of sticking to the cardinal rule of writing what I know and so I would rather not discuss programs I did not experience firsthand. However, I am happy to point you in the direction of people who did some of these programs and who will be able to answer your questions. Below are some blogs that I think are great resources for people wanting to learn more about other programs. (Note: if you would rather I not link to your blog, then please tell me and I will remove the link)
BEDA: Lady in Spain , Lady in Spain’s guest post on Young Adventuress , Traveling Natural , Curiosity Travels
North American Language and Culture Assistants: Sunshine and Siestas part 1, Sunshine and Siestas part 2 , The Most Comprehensive Guide to NALCA on Young Adventuress , Trevor Huxham
CIEE: Reviews at Go Overseas , Route Words
Fulbright: Simply Spain,
An overview of English teaching programs in Spain: Como Consulting , Go Overseas Teaching English in Madrid (yes, I wrote that last one!)
This post is a work in progress, so as I get more questions, more will be added to the list.
#6 — In the Ministerio program in Madrid, there is an age limit (35), the only Comunidad who flat out states one…and by flat out, I mean, “has now updated one of their PDFs with said information somewhere on the website.” Obviously I have no idea if that would apply to UCETAM, but it’s something folks should be aware of.
#7 — Not sure if that is true this year, but last year we were basically told that they were only going to interview people already in Spain. This year, those who are switching programs need to get a new visa regardless apparently thanks to some new change in the Spanish immigration laws (i.e. need to go back to our home countries if we don’t already have an EU passport)…so who knows how that will affect who gets picked this year.
Interesting to know the Comunidad de Madrid instituted an age limit. Maybe people were reapplying too many times and using the program as a permanent way to stay in Spain? You can only do UCETAM for a maximum of two years anyway, so instituting an age limit seems a bit pointless.
And I was vaguely aware of the new visa rule. My friend who did UCETAM for two years switched to a different program (none of the ones listed here, she got an auxiliar position directly through a school) last summer and she had to return home to get a new visa. And interesting you were told they would only be interviewing people in Spain… but things could have changed this year. The only people who really know are the ones who work in the UCETAM office.
Thanks for your feedback!
Mega thanks for the links to my sites, love! The further away I get from the program, the more it seems things change. UCETAM was never on my radar since I don’t live in Madrid, but it’s great to be able to direct people to your page!
No problem! I thought your posts were very well-written and informative. And things definitely change all the time, especially the bureaucracy and visa/NIE process. I can’t help people out there since I didn’t have to do it but I did register and get the document European citizens are supposed to get. And I’m sure the process has changed since then too.
Hello–my name is Betty, and I submitted my application for UCETAM last week…I really don’t want to be “that guy” and ask you pointless questions, but did you immediately hear back from anyone after you submitted your application?…How long was it before they extended the invite for a Skype interview?…When did you know that you’d been placed?
Hi Betty! I don’t mind the questions, plenty of people like yourself have e-mailed me asking questions about UCETAM.
It’s been a few years since I applied so my memory is fuzzy. My experience was different because I was already in Spain when I applied. I can’t remember exactly when I applied but it was definitely around February-March (they seem to be doing things earlier nowadays). I think I heard back sometime in April/May where I got my placement. I never had a Skype interview or a formal interview with UCETAM because I was an NYU grad–at the time it seemed they were just automatically accepting NYU grads with no question (everybody from my MA program at NYU got accepted).
If you have other questions, you can send an e-mail at ameliesayshola@gmail.com.🙂
O.K.–Thank you!!!!
Have you heard anything yet? I applied a little over a week ago and wasn’t notified that they received my app like I was with other places I applied. Hoping this is normal🙂
…Yeah, no–I haven’t heard anything period, as of yet…I’m pretty sure they should have received my e-mail, though…
I think it says on the website they’ll be notifying people they selected for the program through March and April. Unfortunately with Spain, that could mean tomorrow or that could mean 6 weeks from now. I know it’s hard but you are all going to have to sit tight until you receive notice. If you don’t receive an e-mail, it means you weren’t selected. It would be nice if they sent you a confirmation e-mail indicating they’ve received your application but not all job searchers do that (it’s about half and half in the US).
…Trust me–I lived for a short while in Spain, so I’m more than familiar with the country’s infuriating inefficiency…Still, it would be NICE to hear something, even it is a rejection–I’m a graduating college senior, so I hate this waiting game, :-/…
I totally understand. I had a pretty tough last semester my senior year simply because I had no idea what I was going to do. I eventually got into NYU’s program but I was convinced I would not get in and I had all this uncertainty looming above my head.
And everything in Spain is pretty much a waiting game as you well know. It took me over 6 weeks once to get Internet! It was awful (don’t use Orange, they are the devil).
…Yeah, I’m putting my eggs in different little baskets…Not only have I put in for UCETAM, but NALCA and BEDA as well, not to mention USTA in Austria, Connecting Schools to the World in Argentina, and two RA positions that would have me living in either Vienna or London–it’s safe to say that I’m not playing around with this, lol!!…It is my DREAM to be a serial expat before I hit 30 and have to enter “The Real World”!!…
…Oh, and in case I do end up living in Spain in the near-future, which Internet company do you recommend???…
E-mail me at ameliesayshola@gmail.com and I can answer any questions that are not UCETAM related about life in Spain.🙂 (But for the record I used Telefonica and Jazztel. Jazztel for the win)
…Coolio, :-)!!
Still no word?
…Nope–You???…
As far as I know, none of the applicants have heard back yet (I had another UCETAM hopeful e-mail me yesterday saying she hadn’t heard back so you’re not the only ones!) but I think people renewing their second year have. But that’s not surprising, they are already in Spain and get first priority.
….O.K.–Thanks for the head’s up!!…
Yeah, nothing here yet either. Hopefully soon! I’ll let you know when I do.
I totally would’ve applied to this program if I’d known it existed at the time.
You can always apply for next year! It’s never too late to start planning.
In relation to question #5: I applied and was accepted to UCETAM for this upcoming year (yay!) and, although they said they wanted an interview, they never contacted me for one and the first contact I got from them was a job offer. So I wouldn’t be too worried about travelling between the time you apply and the time they offer you the job. However, once they offer it to you there is a VERY small window to respond. So I would make sure that, at least around the end of March, you have email access.
Congrats on getting accepted to the program! I hope you have a great experience and have fun living in Spain.
So they contacted you about the job offer at the end of March? (Just trying to decide when to start obsessively checking my email this year.)
Hi Laura, did you apply for the 2016-2017 cycle? I received a confirmation email concerning the receipt of my application but nothing else. Have you head back? Feel free to email me if you’d like to chat. You’re the most recent post I’ve seen. nattyholman@gmail.com
Hey Laura. Did you apply for the 2016-2017 cycle?
Thanks for the info! I am really interested in this program. I studied abroad in Spain in 2008-2009 and would love to go back. My main question/concern is the pay. Did you fall into the 1400Euro bracket and is there any way to guarantee the number of hours you work? I guess this will vary from school to school since you are essentially working for the school and not UCETAM. I just would prefer to work longer hours and make more money to be self-sufficient and not rely on loans or supplementary money. Any comment on this from you or others would be greatly appreciated. Also for those of you who have applied to the program recently, any updates?
Hi J, I worked 25 hours a week so I was paid a little over 1400 euros. The other option is to work 17 hours a week which is less pay (I don’t know how much). When you fill out the UCETAM application, you can tell them which age group you’d prefer working with and how many hours you want to work. I did end up working the amount of hours I requested which was 25. I think UCETAM does their best to accommodate your request but it wouldn’t hurt to ask around. I do not know anyone currently doing the program right now though so you may have to search a little bit to find some answers. Hope that helped!
Thanks for the reply. This helps alot! It is so hard to find others who have done the UCETAM program – it seems like they are all in hiding (maybe a bad sign ? lol)!
Hi Amelie,
Thank you so much for writing this post! Super super helpful. I’m a second year auxiliar & trying to find my options to stay a possible third year. I was wondering about the schedule. I read in your other post that you worked from September-June. Around when did you have to start working in September? Beginning, mid, etc. or does it just depend on your school? I have a wedding I have to be in mid-September back in Los Angeles & obviously it wouldn’t fly well with the school. Thanks in advance!!
-Sharon
Hi Sharon,
UCETAM starts up in early September. Classes start about mid-September but you are required to spend a week at the school before classes start to get to know the school and get ready before students arrive.
There are always extenuating circumstances though. My grandmother passed away just before classes started and I flew home for the funeral, missing part of the “orientation week” before classes started. It ended up not mattering much because we ended up doing practically nothing that week, it was kind of a joke!
I also had another friend who had to miss a few weeks due to a wedding, just like you. She was the maid of honor so she couldn’t really miss it. She let UCETAM know about it early ahead of time and I guess things worked out because she ended up starting a bit late. I think as long you let them know right off the bat about your obligation, it should be okay. Hope that answered your question!
Thanks, Amelie. I really appreciate your response! Hopefully it´ll work out for me as well.
Hi everyone! I’ve applied for the program this year and am wondering if there is anyone else out there? I still have not heard back regarding when my interview will be.
Hi Nathan,
It’s always a bit of a waiting game and a lot of uncertainty, you definitely aren’t the only one. I’m not sure when you’ll hear back about interviews but at this point so many people apply that I don’t think everyone who does necessarily gets selected for an interview. Good luck!
I applied for the program this year as well. I am anxious to hear something, as I have to let my school in the U.S. know soon whether I am returning next year. (I have also applied to JET in Japan and had an interview, but UCETAM is my first choice.)
Sorry I can’t be of much help! A lot of people comment on this post hoping that I or another commenter will have insight on acceptance/rejection timelines of the application. The only people who know anything about this are the UCETAM people. I applied five years ago and the process was very different for me. I honestly can’t remember when I found out that I was accepted into the program, sometime in the spring is all I remember. I really have no idea when you may hear back.
Hey Nathan, I also applied this cycle but it was pretty late in the (like a week before the deadline). I did receive an email confirming but application but nothing else yet. And you?
Hey Nathan, have you heard anything yet? I applied a day before the deadline, and I chose to only be placed in Madrid (not cities outside of Madrid). I’m wondering if that is apart of the delay.
I’m still waiting, nervously. You?
Hey Nathan:
I’ve been in communication with another girl who was accepted into the program. The coordinator informed her that all of the spots have been filled and no further interviews will be given. I never received any more emails from them, so I’m not sure what happened. I’ve applied to some other programs as well, since they’ve been so unresponsive. I think I will email them next week, since it can’t hurt my candidacy now.